new blog for my woodcarving that are for sale

hi folks, just wanted you to know of a new blog that i will have just for photos of my carving that i have for sale ..... some friends and family wanted to be able to see what i had for sale, and ebay is getting to expensive for me, this might be a better way for me, so its a blog but only photos of my woodcarving will be posted there, i will continue to use this blog for information on woodcarving classes and upcoming youtube videos, ....my website that i have was to time consuming and very confusing for posting photos and i wanted something that folks just could come and see what i have available, once its sold i will remove it, please email me first if your interested in a piece, at the carverswoodshop@yahoo.com take care arleen

the new site is http//www.arleenscarverswoodshop.blogspot.com

new ornament, hobo snowman / tree

the next project will be a hobo snowman /tree ornament, it will be a fun ornament to do, i will start this soon in the next week, hope you all are having a great fall season, as we get ready for thanksgiving, it will be a busy time for me,,, thanks again for all your support, arleen

back, from canada, new project and new ideas

hi folks, just wanted to let you know the next project coming up on my youtube channel called carverswoodshop, i will be loading how to carve a small simple black cat for Halloween , not much into halloween, but thought it would be nice to make a small cat the design is my own, i have yet to paint it, but it will be up this week along with some couple of other videos, one how to use driftwood and where to find it.,found mine along lake Ontario when i visited my sister, she lives a bit more than an hour from toronto it was a nice time, did a little carving while i was chatting away, a few more pumpkins for my bottle stoppers for christmas, ok folks time to get some things done, have a great week , arleen

how many knives lol , there is always room for one more !!

i just posted a question how many carving knives do you have, i have alot more than i use, and funny thing i can only use one at a time, last i look i have about 11 carving knives, 10 pocket knives, and alot of other knives i made for carving and used for a while, i dont know about you but i enjoy a new knife from time to time, sometimes i get them at carving shows, and i just enjoy buying them, some of my best knives didnt have to be expensive in fact they were only ten bucks at a show, that is the kind of fun i like to find them at a show, no matter what you use as long as you enjoy carving , and if your like me there is always room for one more, happy and safe carving , arleen

patterns and cutouts and video available,

hi folks i just posted a video about patterns , cutouts and video, that i have available, i really do try to make it a reasonable price that anyone that wants to try it can afford to do so, i not a big believer in buy all the latest tools, and i feel very strong that anyone that wants to learn to wood carve can and not costing them alot to do so. there are plenty of hobbies that cost alot , and if you have the means to pay for it its one thing, its other when your living pay check to pay check or your you cant work, or a senior , so the only thing i sell is patterns that i created, and cutouts for them, also a chickadee dvd that i made, which is 25.00 free shipping in the usa, a bit more to cananda and elsewhere, i am just one person doing all this, so its not that i have a barn load of cutouts waiting to go out lol i cut only what i need to fill an order, and i try to keep it affordable, so if your one of those folks that would like to be able to follow along, and want a pattern or a cutout please email me , all the info is on the youtube channel on the leftside of the page, it will tell you what is available of patterns and cutouts, i send all pattern by email only , and they are 1.50 for a pattern, and there is an other list for the cost of the cutouts if you scroll down pass the pattern list, thanks for for all the nice comments, and if you want the dvd, please order it, i only have 7 now available and will have to burn more as we go and only can burn 3-5 a night, when i have time lol which seems to be less and less these days,,, happy carving, arleen
please email me at carverswoodshop@yahoo.com or link into my channel www.youtube.com/carverswoodshop thanks arleen

planning and making patterns

hi folks, i wanted to do some more bottle stoppers, many of you seemed to enjoy that series, i do plan to do some more projects i will be working on some new patterns that we will use. until i get to the bottle stoppers patterns i will do a small black cat, i dont care to much for halloween because of my beliefs but i have a black cat here at the farm and thought it would be nice to carve a tiny one, its been fun making the videos and will post them soon on my youtube channel carverswoodshop...i find it also as much fun to create a pattern and see it come to a finished carving piece. its amazing to me where you will get the idea to create the patterns, i hope your all enjoying the fall this year, i know i am looking forward to seeing the leaves turn soon here in pa, take care , bye

pumpkin bottle stopper is finished and future carvings on youtube

hi folks, i just finished the pumpkin bottle stopper, its simple to make, and i did these two videos because i wanted to show how to make the bottle stopper, and how to attach and measure it, and how to put it together. its how all the bottle stoppers will be made in my carving used to make stoppers , i have about 6 pumpkin stoppers to make for christmas, this is a neat way to make something for someone that will not take alot of time but will be very useful, and there is all kinds of carving you can do and create to make bottle stoppers, so i will be planning to make different carvings that can be used for a bottle stoppers, hope you folks will enjoy it, happy carving , arleen

finish our hobo santa class

hi folks we are done with our hobo santa class, everyone one did very well, and did a great job on their santa, i will be starting another class of a hobo santa, nov 2 2009 in morgantown pa, at the mall, ( home funishing outlet mall) email me if your interested, at carverswoodshop@yahoo.com thanks, arleen , ps we had a great time,

finish my project called helping friends

hi folks, just finish doing the last two videos on my project here is a photo of it, i am going to do some short projects , one is going to be a bottle stopper, , so more to come , arleen

bottle stoppers, our next project

hi folks, i am trying to get the helping friends videos done on youtube, its alot more than i thought but that is fine, i will be doing bottle stoppers when i get done with this series, and and few neat ideas for christmas so stay tuned, happy and safe carving, arleen

its just something i had to post, you dont get a chance to see this to often

rainbow, reminds me of Gods promises, took this photo in mich., last week,

howdy everyone, its been a while

howdy folks, i havent been online as much was able to do a quick three clip video on the pineapple ornament this past week, doing some day trips with my family and ready to get back to doing some more video for you folks, its always good to be with the family sometimes we dont take enough time in our busy world to do so. lol as i get older the more it means to me to take the time, just an update i will finish the hobo santa HELPING FRIENDS this coming week, i also have another neat idea that i will share with you that you can make for the holidays , i plan to make a few of these for my friends and family for the holidays, its never to early to plan to carve for the holidays, also its great to see more people joining and posting their photos on the group page on facebook called carverswoodshop. just a reminder its a request to join everyone is welcome. everyone have a great weekend, and safe carving, arleen

hobo santa and hobo snowman ( helping friends)

hello, again i started the helping friends project, this project may take a bit of time to finish... i will try to finish it this weekend, this coming week is very busy for me, i thought with this project i would use more of the gouges, lol i using more of the knife ..... i am using small gouges in some parts of the carving, ohhh how i love using the knife when ever i can.... well enjoy the project ......oct is always busy for me, alot of company coming to see us.. and being called back to work too, like everyone else there is never enough time to carve. try to enjoy the changing of the season if you live in the part of the country that does have the four seasons, i going to try not to miss the leaves colors this year, happy and safe carving to you

you never who you might be a mentor to

i been posting alot of videos on youtube, and i had a young teenager that was so excited about woodcarving, he has posted his video of the mouse project.... that i just put up on youtube, he was the one that wanted me to do a mouse, he posted a video on the carverswoodshop group, this young fella did a great job on the mouse , i wanted to know how long he has been carving, he said a month, WOW i thought he did a great job on all his carvings.. being a beginner, he has a gift, now 10 years from now i wonder what his carving will be like? great i am sure, if he keeps it up, so if you been carving for a while you never know who you might inspire to learn to carve, and who will learn the basics of woodcarving from you. it does my heart good to see that young people want to learn the art of wood carving.

just a quick project , mouse

hi folks, before i start the helping friends project, i did a simple mouse for a young man that requested me to do a mouse, thought i would just do a simple mouse, if your interested just go to http://www.youtube.com/carverswoodshop it was a fun little mouse to do , enjoy, arleen

carverswoodshop facebook group

video of your carving on facebook

folks just one more thing to confuse everyone, you can post a short video on my facebook group called carverswoodshop if you like or photos, i just notice it today and did two with a webcam, not the best way but you can see it pretty well, ohhh my its time to get going have my class tonight , carving a hobo santa, see ya, lol maybe on facebook, take care folks bye

asking for help! no shame in asking

as you know i been trying and having all kinds of issues with this facebook stuff, now that its done and seems to be working out well, i had some help in fixing it,,, funny i have no problem asking someone to help me with the facebook, i work alot on computers and printers and i refill inkjets as a business here at the farm,, so i know alot but at times i just have to ask. when i started my youtube videos back in march i had no idea what i was doing, i figured most of it out on my own, i had the time to research. but facebooks is another story,, to me it was not user friendly , confusing and frustrating at times, but like all thing you just need to keep at it, and when you really dont know what you are doing then ask,,,,, no shame in asking

same in carving, just ask how is that done, and you will find carvers happy and willing to help out, no shame in asking

link to carverswoodshop facebook group your invited to join and see others pics , arleen

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=134174053475

wow think i now fixed facebook

ok this stuff drives me nuts, but i hate it and love it all at the same time, a friend of mine at work took care of this, you now can join a group called carverswoodshop, there you will be able to post your photos, and that everyone will be able to see your work, ...................., the ARLEEN CARVERSWOODSHOP and the group CARVERSWOODSHOP, you can join both or just one, but if you want to post pics you will have to join the CARVERSWOODSHOP thanks folks for your understanding, arleen

UPDATE ON FACEBOOK ....WHAT TO DO

hi , i did some research on this and i have all the setting where i need them to be, i believe that if someone posts on your wall , their setting on the photos have to be everyone, otherwise i will be the only one to see it. go to photos, edit photo, edit feature and then make sure its EVERYONE, i believe also that you will need to do this for every photo you place unless you set it for all your photos for everyone to see, which i understand no everyone wants that to happen, thanks for your understanding and waiting for me to search this problem out, i hope this will fix the problem , arleen

NEW FACEBOOK ???? not working , sorry

so sorry folks, some folks are not able to view the photos posted by others, i am working on it and will let you know when its done,,, i already changed the setting, i really dont know what else i need to do,, but i have a friend that will help me out with it soon, i will keep you posted, thanks

still working on the pineapple and what is next

hi there, i just wanted to tell you that i am working on some new patterns for my series hobo santa and snowman named FRIENDS, i have three new designs that are done just a matter of getting it ready so that i can cut them out, one will be called HELPING FRIENDS, and not sure what to call the others, so it will be soon,,, plus i think i will also do a pineapple ornament of the same size for those of you that would like to do more ornaments, so stay tuned, i will get a couple of more videos out for the pineapple this week ,, we should get it done by the end of the week, happy and safe carving, arleen

woodcarving clubs WOW

hi folks, , i was able to go to our meeting of the lancaster county woodcarvers club, it was a great night, you really do find very nice folks, and i will tell you i never knew how much work it is to get a woodcarving show up and running year to year,,, lots of folks donate time and effort to this, and we are only in sept 09 and the show is june 2010 , and you learn from seeing what others carve in their show and tell time. we laugh and learn,,, a great way to do things, so if your not part of one, go find one , i know its difficult to go when you dont know anybody, but after a couple of times that changes, go and be part of a club, and learn what you can, you can always get something out of it,,, happy carving, arleen

mistakes and how we can learn from them, keep going

hi again, well i now have about 5 videos up for the pineapple, but i made a mistake on the top which i mention on the video, but instead of try to redo the project, i decided it would be a good time to show folks how you can fix a mistake. if you have been woodcarving for any lenght of time you will make a mistake, i once did it with a santa , his boot and legs were in the wrong direction , i didnt notice it until i was almost done with it,, lol well i thought i will finish him anyway and then i will just sell it on ebay,,,, and guess what it sold, to my amazement, it was one of a kind who ever has it today, is enjoying it . it wasnt a waste but taught me to do things a little different, and same with the video,, so folks take heart,, dont be discouraged just keep on going,,, i will admit only a few never made it ,,,they made it to the wood pile to burn but at least i tried. i know how frustrating it can be to see your mistake at the moment you realized that you did it wrong, but keep at it ,, if it doesnt work out, then try it again,,, we alland mean all of us woodcarvers have been there and done that, so if your new ,, thats ok,, try it again or try to repair it, you be amazed at what you will learn from your mistakes, happy and safe carving , and remember your not the only one that make carving mistakes , arleen

it's been fun and finding and taking the time in the fall to carve

hi folks, lot going on these days, and the new facebook account that was up for a couple of days is doing well, new friends are coming to the site, and some are posting pics, which is the idea for this site. great carvings, and i enjoy seeing them very much. well today i will try again to start another project for my youtube channel, and i hope to be able to get a few video clips done, time seems to always get away from me, i dont know about you but everytime i get a bit of time to carve something else gets in the way,,, i guess thats just life and it makes it even more special to get that time to carve, my favorite thing to do , is to take a lawn chair, ( which is always in the car just in case there is time ) and my carving box , and drive to one of my outdoor getaways, and just sit and carve, esp in the fall when the leave turn, my favorite time of the year. i get a window of about two weeks when the leaves are the best, so i dont want to miss it this year, so find and take the time to carve in your favorite place this fall. happy carving

here is the link to the facebook site if your interested

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000250926034&ref=nf

pineapple is the next project on youtube and monday starts my hobo class in morgantown pa.

hi folks, the next project on youtube is a pineapple, i got the idea from going to a craft shop, this is a good project that will be good for a beginner and advance alike ,, i have to paint this one yet will do hopefully today,, the one on youtube will be a bit bigger so there is going to be alot to carve, but i sure you will find this project fun,,, alot going on these days, i am getting ready for my class that i will be teaching , the hobo santa, i am looking forward to it, got all the tools and carvers gloves thumb guard and ready to go,,, ohhhh and the knives too LOL we cant forget them,,, and a strops that i made this past week. so come join me if you like to try to carve this pineapple, happy and safe carving, and also dont forget join the facebook so you can post your carving projects the name is ARLEEN CARVERSWOODSHOP thanks folks for stopping by ,

something new to try ,,, facebook ( arleen carverswoodshop)

hi folks i created another account, , called ARLEEN CARVERSWOODSHOP the reason for this is that you can post some of your finish pictures of your carvings, post it on my facebook wall.,, if your interested in joining just ask for a friend request,, i hope to post some of my old humble carvings, and hope this will help those that are just starting to carve,, its wonderful to go to a show to see other carvings but not everyone is able to go or to near a woodcarving show, this is also a wonderful way for woodcarvers to get ideas, ,, hope you see you on carverswoodshop facebook page, arleen

ebay, my santas , snowmen for sale , and teaching how to do hobo angel ornament

hi folks, you will see from time to time on my youtube channel, santas that will be for sale on ebay, this really is for collectors, and that they could see it better in a video if they want to see more about my santas, i am still teaching, i just using the other avenues to reach folks, so i thought i give it a try a couple of times and see what happens, its interesting to try new things, when it come to the computer,,, lol and then i wonder what happen to all my time,,,, mostly on the computer these days, just put up 4 videos for the hobo angel ornament, a few folks wanted to see how to do it, so thought it be the best time to get that done, more videos tomorrow to finish up the angel, happy carving everyone, arleen

time to do the hobo angel ornament, and getting ready for my hobo santa carving class!

hi folks, another project that you might to do in an evening or two, is a hobo angel ornament, the detail is about the same as in the round that i did earlier, i hope to do this in about 5 to 6 videos, i will start it soon,,, been busy trying to make some strops for my class coming up on sept 14...., think i have 4 folks so far, room for a few more, i am also working on the hobo santa that i will be making in the class,, alot of prep work,,, but looking forward to teaching, here are some pics of the ornament i will be doing on youtube

finished pumpkins, a fun and easy project

its a fun project for the fall, if you like to learn to carve one come to www.youtube.com/carverswoodshop

happy carving, arleen

pumpkin ornament , simple things

hi folks i will be posting a small project of a pumpkin in the round on youtube, videos 1 and 2 should be on by tomorrow night, its a fun easy project, a nice one to do in an evening, simple, and fun

hobo angel , now the next project a pumkin

hobo angel that was done on youtube, now i am going to do some simple things, a pumpkin is next,,,, i got one done and painted in a hour,,,, nice for a change, well back to work happy carving, arleen

youtube update, simple things

well i am about ready to paint the hobo angel and to move on to another project, going to do some simple things, i have yet to make the patterns and also more christmas ornaments that seem to be a favorite for many. as one carver just told me he enjoys doing simple things that can be done in one sitting, with that in mind i going to find projects like this for the youtube channel, give me a few days and i will be off and running with another project soon, happy and safe carving, ohhh the box project is still in the work also i just need to find a neat pattern to work on, i did not forget it , just on the back burner for now, arleen

pattern price list and cutouts on my youtube channel

carverswoodshop look on my youtube channel carverwsoodshop...... on the left side for updated pattern and cutout list , i will try to update this one too, thanks arleen

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LEARN TO CARVE , SANTAS, BIRDS, ORNAMENTS
carving pattens available for 1.50each project usa fund, by paypal or ck
if by ck make payable to

arleen zomer
226 hill rd. honey brook pa. 19344
484-364 -0471
email carverswoodshop@yahoo.com
blog www.carverswoodshop,blogspot,c om
patterns will be sent only by email

BLACK LAB PUPPY 1.50
WOODEN SHOE 1.50
WREN RELIEF 1.50
CARDINDAL RELEIF 1.50
EAGLE LETTER OPENER 1.50
SANTA WITH A BEAR 1.50
FLY DOVE AND ORNAMENT 1.50
SANTA FACE 3-D ( 4 total ) ...... 1.50
SANTA BOOT ( 3 total ) .....1.50
SANTA HOBO RELIEF ( total 3) .........1.50
TULIP .........................1.50
RUDDY DUCK ......................1.50
HOBO SANTA-SNOWMANT RELIEF 1.50
HOBO ANGEL .............................1 .50

PUMPKIN ORNAMENT.............1.50
cutout price list below in next section
will send pattern only by email
payable by paypal to zomerenterprises@yahoo.com
and state which patterns you want , thank you , arleen
twitter ,,,,,, carverswoodshop
skpye .......arleen zomer
more free carving lessons to come folks IS 54:10 happy and safe carving !
now i have cutout available for you if you dont have a band saw here is the price list below

***** important these are without the patterns this is just the cutout so you can follow my projects on youtube
PATTERNS AVAILABLE FOR 1,50 each

FLYING DOVE AND AN ORNAMENT, (2 PIECES).... 5.00
BLACK LAB PUPPY ........................8.00
WOODEN SHOE .............................. .6.00
WREN RELIEF .............................. ....3.00
CARDINAL RELIEF........................ ....3.00
EAGLE LETTER OPENER ............. .3.00
SANTA WITH A BEAR........................4. 00
BOOT ORNAMENT...................... .......4.00
SANTA HOBO RELIEF ORNAMENT .......4.00
TULIP IN A VASE.......................... ..............9.00
SANTA FACE ORNAMENT 3-D...............3.00
SNOWMAN RELIEF ORNAMENT ...........3.00
RUDDY DUCK .............................. ...........4.50
HOBO SANTA-SNOWMAN RELIEF 4.00
HOBO ANGEL......................... ......................6.50

PUMPKIN ORNAMENT................................2.50
all cutouts are profile cutout only,
and prices are subject to change
look at the pattern list above how to pay for them , paypal or ck , or ck my video HOW TO ORDER PATTERNS thank you arleen


DVDS.........


CHICKADEE LESSONS .. now in dvd........................... .......25.00 SHIPPING FREE IN THE USA, 3.00 MORE TO SHIP TO CANADA, 5.00 FOR INTERNATIONAL THIS DVD WILL WORK IN YOUR PORTABLE DVD PLAYER AND YOUR PC WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER, THIS WORKS ON YOUR COMPUTER, OR PLEASE CALL ME 484-364-0471 OR EMAIL ME, THANKS ARLEEN
email carverswoodshop@yahoo.com
blog www.carverswoodshop@blogspot.c om

ABOUT ARLEEN THE WOODCARVER


hi there, i am a woodcarver in pa. i have been carving since 1980, its a fun hobby for anyone, old and young alike. i mostly do santas, and i will be doing more videos, i also carved eagles are one of my favorites, and birds, animals, relief carving, etc. i do some teaching, but thought it would be neat that you could do this in you own time , with the youtube.
i am self taught, i didnt go to any school for this, and its a great hobby. the art, is designing your own things and also you can do 100 santas, and they all look a bit different no matter how hard you tired to do the same, that is what hand work is all about.
i am a farmer by trade, and have a couple of buinesses on the side, farming slowed down in 2005, and now i ready to set up shop so that i can teach at the farm in the near future, we are close to the lancaster county area, and live among the amish country. not only amish are farmers lol.
if you like to email me feel free to do so, i hope to get my shop up and running come fall of 2009. go to carving shows if you can, you can get alot of ideas and tools there, enjoy the videos, take your time,
good luck happy carving
email me if you have questions carverswoodshop@yahoo.com

City: near lancaster county
Hometown: honey brook , pa
Country: United States
Website:http://www.carverswoodshop.blogspot.com

what you can carve now, you may not have been able to before!!

i had a friend that wanted a snowman for a long time, i had no idea how to make one, sounded easy but i just couldnt figure it out until i had an idea, took me about a couple of years , believe it or not, to wrap my mind around this project, so one day as i was doing a santa , it came to me out of the blue, so you never know when your able to do something that you thought you couldnt before, so dont be discourged, if a project seems to difficult , leave it for a while, it may not be the time to do it for you , and come back to it another day, this is to be fun, not frustrating, enjoy what your working on, that is the name of the game, happy and safe carving to you. arleen

here is one of the snowman that i have done, you can learn to do one of these on my youtube channel,

http;//www.youtube.com/carverswoodshop

fall is coming, love it , great time to see carving shows

well hi folks, my favorite season is fall, i love everything about it, the leaves, harvest and thankful for the cooler weather. its also a wonderful time to see a carving show, if you have never been to one, take the time to go, its soooo worth it. summer is a slower time, people going on vacations, trips, and now that fall is here, and more carving shows too . i went to the lancaster carving show here in lancaster pa, not to far from me, about 30 mins lol on a good day,,, lots of tourist in this part of the country, and that is great, the show was great, and i was able to get some of it on my youtube channel, so get out there if your an old or new carver,,, you can get so many neat ideas for projects ,,, that is where i got the pinecone project idea , and was able to do it for my youtube channel, its a fun project, so come and enjoy a day out and go to a show. i plan to go do my trips around carving shows, lol , like most carvers , fall is coming, and i am loving it.

nothing to do with carving, but kittens are cute

well i know this has nothing to do with carving, but i had to show off these kittens, that were born on my farm, we had a stray that found our farm in march and she had kittens, couldnt find them for about two weeks, but yep in my farm office they were, and now i have 4 of them walking all over the place, how cute, and sweet to see these little ones, the moma cat is protective came after me a couple of times, she a good moma cat, some nice things in life can be free , i enjoy watching them play!

a neat time , carving can be done anywhere! but two things to remember!!

last night i was able to finish the angel ornament , and ready to paint it, i will be showing you how to do this project a little later after we are done with the hobo angel in the round. when your a carver and you do small projects they are fun to do anywhere , i was able to chat with my sister here from canada, and we were all sitting around the table chatting, and i was carving away , listening and also putting my two cents into the conversation lol. but folks i carve in the car waiting, really you can carve anywhere but TWO THINGS TO REMEMBER to follow, always ask if its ok to carve if your in someone else home or back yard....... some folks are fussy about the chips flying, and most of all clean it up like you were never there. remember , ask and clean up

some tips, if you dont have a table, i use a big soft nylon cooler, it holds alot of stuff, plus i open it and let the chips fall in the cooler, much less to clean up, and i clean out the cooler later at home. i also take along a piece of cardboard about the size 20 x20 inches, and tape the edges, so its not sharp, and put it on a table, that way you wont cut or nick out the table, and easy to gather the wood chips to toss in the garbage. so always be mindful where you carve,,, dont do it if little ones are around, common sense and respect is all you need to enjoy your carving anywhere, happy and safe carving, arleen

ckecks , how to deal with them , just keep going!!

nooo not a check you cash, its what you can find in carving a piece of wood, real word is cracks , in the 28 years plus that i have carved i have ran into this problem very seldom, but it does happen, it happen with the angel project so i had to redo it again, up to video #4. i was very suprised that i saw it, thinking i could fix the ones on the head, and also letting carvers see how to fix it , but the next morning , boom 4- 6 more,,, then it was time to toss it in the wood pile to be burn, lol

but i think either two things first the piece was a bit heavy , wondered if it was as dry as i thought, lighter piece to my way of thinking had less water content, or i sprayed to much with the 50/50 mix to soften up the wood, i didnt have a problem before straying it in the past, so two things i learned and should have done, one, not to cut the piece to close to the edge of the block, and two dont spray it as much, maybe my own fault, i really soaked that sucker, it was a tough, either way i knew it was time to try it again, so folks, it doesnt always work as we planned, but dont give up if something gets in the way, just start it again, and just keep going, happy carving, arleen